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With the way everyone leaves their keys just sitting out in the open, I smell shopping spree for petty thieves (and maybe the means of transportation to get the loot home). - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
well. copying rfid actually takes more than just a camera. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
"well. copying rfid actually takes more than just a camera."
Exactly, with this you don't even need line of sight! Advantage: thieves. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
$15? That's like a whole drink at ballpark prices!
I have a SpeedPass on my keychain. It is really handy but I wouldn't trust the technology on something potentially so universal. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
I would only use this if it required a pin for every purchase. I dont want my keys to become a target for theft, then I'll be without a ride home AND without any money. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
I'd rather have someone steal my keys than my wallet. I don't see how this fob is any less secure your wallet.
Besides, are you scared of people stealing your keys to steal your car?
[No. It's petty thieves. They wouldn't steal a car.]
What about the cds in your car?
[I have an ipod.]
How about the car battery then?
[Now you're being silly.]
You are too. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
Theres not much point in stealing keys unless you have a remote alarm system and can find the car in a parking lot by sound. Stealing a set of generic Toyota keys isnt going to do the thief much good when theres about 75 Toyotas to choose from. Adding this thing to your keychain would just give people a reason to steal them instead of turning them into lost and found since its basically like finding a $20 bill attached to a set of keys.
Its not less secure than your wallet but instead of 1 thing that can get stolen you now have 2 things that can get stolen, doubling your risk. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
"I don't see how this fob is any less secure your wallet."
If your wallet is stolen, something is physically taken from you. If your RFID card is read and impersonated, you won't have any idea until you get the bill 30 days later. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
Trenton
I'm pretty sure any point you were trying to make was disproved by yourself. I don't think you even made a point. Yes, having RFID on your keys is less secure than a card in your wallet. Do you even know how RFID works? - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
I still don't understand why everyone is stuck on rfid, it is so dangerous, the fact that it is in passports now scares the shit outta me, that someone can steal my passport information without even touching the book? not to mention if everyone has a master card with pay pass, it must be a cinch to pick up rfid numbers in a place with close proximity like a bus or subway. man, if i had a choice to use rfid or not, i would opt out! - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
The passport thing is kinda scary, but there are lead or zinc lined (can't remember) passport sleves for the security conscious amongst us.
BTW, loosing ones keys now REALLY sucks. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
also, im assuming you dont bring your passport with you everywhere? hopefully... - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
i do when i go through customs, oh wait, that is usually packed, hmm, seems like the perfect place to do rfid sniffing to me - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
When in a foreign country I always carry it on me (or equivalent ID). It's a requirement in some countries, no? - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
I disagree here. I don't know why people are so scared of this. This is nothing like passport RFID tags. Not even remotely close.
You're scared that someone will make a purchase of a Twinkee and Diet Coke at the 7-11? All the while I am laughing at your paranoia as I use the product as intended -- convenience!
If anyone knows an issuer that is using these, I'd love to know!! - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
yeah this assumes only minimarts and gas stations use it, but you know it is going to move to the mainstream such as how the credit card used to go from being essentially carbon copied to magnetic swipe. and you may need a signature for larger purchases, but these days how often do you actually give the clerk your card? not often considering they are all self swipe now, i don't think anyone has ever checked my signature before. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
I'm not saying that my example purchase is due to the limit -- I'm saying that's all they're DO with it! You only hear of big-money scams happening in Asia. Such as the time two waiters took a patron's card next door to buy $500 worth of cell phones. The man's bank called him and alerted him, who told the management. Case closed, no harm done to the man. The most you'll get here is some guy buying some munchies.
The signature also doesn't matter. As a former liquor store and pool-and-spa store employee I can tell you that the signature doesn't matter when it comes to fraud. 'See ID' doesn't help you either, unless that IS your signature!
I can't wait until this kind of thing is everywhere. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
The trick is that someone could easily ding the crap out of my bank account very quickly with those $25 purchases and, when you get devices like this, you are agreeing to honour the unsigned purchase. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
Where are you? Outside America (Japan, for one) you can use 7-11 to buy stuff online- use the in-store terminal (or the online site, 7dream.com ) to select what you want, and it'll be delivered to the store where you then pay by cash/cellphone/whatever. Twinkie and Diet coke? More like a Wii and some games, or a new Walkman.
And security issues? Japan has it right with the cellphone RFID- the phone has an "IC card lock" which allows you to lock the RFID chip with a PIN before it will communicate, and a long-distance lock which lets you lock it remotely if you lose the phone. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Tag key fobs
Asha Kydd, please point me to the company offering these that doesn't offer some kind of buyer protection. I'll wait.
Jamar, thank you! Honestly folks, it's not like this is a completely new concept to the world. It's a new concept to paranoid Americans. - Comments on Visa rolls out payWave-enabled Micro Ta